Trinity Q & A Continued

by Jay Scher

Now if we look at the even bigger picture of things and the finality of all things as "The Plan For Mankind", it becomes even clearer how the two can't be one. I will explain some of it from the beginning first really quickly. If he is going to be in the presence of his Father he is a separate spirit being at that point, he can't go to himself and he is not talking about himself in the third person! Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with Elohim, and the Word was Elohim. Joh 1:2 He was in the beginning with Elohim. Joh 1:3 All came to be through Him,1 and without Him not even one came to be that came to be................................ Now Elohim can mean Mighty one or Mighty ones. In the last part of verse one it means two, mighty ones. There are two.....He has the same features as his Father. It is really simple. We were created in their image just as he was created in the image of his Father. Gen 1:26 And Elohim said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the heavens, and over the livestock, and over all the earth and over all the creeping creatures that creep on the earth.” He didn’t say my image he said our image as in plural spirit beings. Take a look at the following verses for me and you will see what they want for us! Rev 21:2 And I, Yoḥanan, saw the set-apart city, renewed Yerushalayim, coming down out of the heaven from Elohim, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. Do you know who Elohim is here in this verse and who the husband is in this verse? You have to see the big picture here and understand it is impossible for the two to be one. Those that are chosen to be first fruits and the marriage of the Lamb don't marry the Father, they marry the Son! So here in verse 2 we hope to be the bride and the Lamb, “Messiah is the Husband”. It goes along with the next verse; Hos 2:16 “And it shall be, in that day,” declares יהוה, “that you call Me ‘My Husband,’ and no longer call Me ‘My Baʽal.’ Do you understand the marriage of the lamb and the marriage supper? Rev_19:7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honor to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. People don’t go to heaven or hell when they die there are two resurrections and those in the first resurrection are the first fruits “these are those that will marry Messiah” and in the second they are judged according to their works, but with many of them going to the lake of fire. Rev 20:6 Blessed and set-apart is the one having part in the first resurrection. The second death possesses no authority over these, but they shall be priests of Elohim and of Messiah, and shall reign with Him a thousand years. This is the second resurrection. Rev 20:11 And I saw a great white throne and Him who was sitting on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away, and no place was found for them. Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before the throne, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged from what was written in the books, according to their works. Rev 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead who were in it, and death and the grave gave up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works. Rev 20:14 And the death and the grave were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death.1 Footnote: 1See 2:11, 20:6, 21:8. Rev 20:15 And if anyone was not found written in the Book of Life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.Of Elohim and Messiah, so we are talking about two again and not one. Do you understand what I am talking about or did I lose you along the way. Please let me know if I have lost you along the way at any place. Messiah “Yah the Son” was the Elohim of the 1st covenant not “Father Yah” as no one has ever seen or heard his voice. Joh 1:18 No one has ever seen Elohim.1 The only brought-forth Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He did declare.2 Footnotes: 1See 5:37, 6:46, 1 John 4:12. 2The pre-existent Son declared, and was the One who appeared to men. Joh 6:44 “No one is able to come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him. And I shall raise him up in the last day. Joh 6:45 “It has been written in the prophets, ‘And they shall all be taught by יהוה.’ Everyone, then, who has heard from the Father, and learned, comes to Me. Joh 6:46 “Not that anyone has seen the Father, except He who is from Elohim – He has seen the Father. Joh 5:37 “And the Father who sent Me, He bore witness of Me. You have neither heard His voice at any time, nor seen His form. 1Co 10:1 For I do not wish you to be ignorant, brothers, that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea, 1Co 10:2 and all were immersed into Mosheh in the cloud and in the sea, 1Co 10:3 and all ate the same spiritual food, 1Co 10:4 and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed, and the Rock was Messiah. 1Co 12:3 Therefore I make known to you that no one speaking by the Spirit of Elohim says יהושע is a curse, and no one is able to say that יהושע is Master except by the Set-apart Spirit. So I gave you the crash course in the big master plan. Then we will have the Kingdom of Israel and a New Jerusalem as we read in Rev 21 earlier. Rev 21:2 And I, Yoḥanan, saw the set-apart city, renewed Yerushalayim, coming down out of the heaven from Elohim, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. Rev 21:3 And I heard a loud voice from the heaven saying, “See, the Booth of Elohim is with men, and He shall dwell with them, and they shall be His people, and Elohim Himself shall be with them and be their Elohim. Rev 21:4 “And Elohim shall wipe away every tear from their eyes, and there shall be no more death, nor mourning, nor crying. And there shall be no more pain, for the former matters have passed away.” Rev 21:5 And He who was sitting on the throne said, “See, I make all matters new.” And He said to me, “Write, for these words are true and trustworthy.” Rev 21:6 And He said to me, “It is done! I am the ‘Aleph’ and the ‘Taw’, the Beginning and the End. To the one who thirsts I shall give of the fountain of the water of life without payment. Rev 21:7 “The one who overcomes shall inherit all this, and I shall be his Elohim and he shall be My son. Now we can read further down again that there is two “Elohim and the Lamb”. It doesn’t say they are the same spirit and again it doesn’t explain anytype of oneness at all, in fact it tells us “Elohim and The Lamb Two times”. Whenever we are told something twice in the same verse or in back to back verses then we can count on it 100%. There is no guessing here as to their oneness as they are two spirit beings. This is not something that is too hard for us to understand through the scriptures as so many people want to say when you explain there are two and what “Echad” means through the scriptures. With only 2% of our brain it is not too hard to understand. Joh_14:14 “If you ask whatever in My Name, I shall do it. This goes for asking questions about his nature and his plan for us. Why he created us? What this whole deal is really about! What his real truth in scripture is! Help with unlearning the false traditions and doctrines of man. Coming out of Babylon religions and learning how to have a real relationship with the Father, and the Son without man or Idols in the middle! That is what this is about, not religion, but a covenant relationship, understanding that “The Scriptures” are a Constitutional Treaty for the Kingdom of Israel. Understanding that they are not done away with, but they are what keeps us in covenant relationship with the Father and the Son. Mat_7:7 “Ask and it shall be given to you, seek and you shall find, knock and it shall be opened to you. Luk_11:9 “And I say to you: ask and it shall be given to you, seek and you shall find, knock and it shall be opened to you. Rev_3:20 “See, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I shall come in to him and dine with him, and he with Me.